I loved Martin Jol when he was at Spurs. How could you not? The genial giant with that hypnotic Dutch accent knew how to click with the fans. Besides, I was scared he’d be upset if I didn’t like him. He’s really big! I wouldn’t want him angry with me. No matter how much I liked him when he was at Spurs and no matter how disgusted I was at his treatment at the end, nothing prepared me for the gushings of admiration for him today when he was announced as Fulham’s new manager. Real declarations of love and talk of Spurs fans going to watch Fulham games! What? I know. It passed. I think people got caught up in the moment.
I loved Martin Jol when he was at Spurs. How could you not? Some of the football we played was breathtaking.
The counter point to that though is that we were too often tragi-comic at the back. Jol bought us some great performances, but an often woeful lack of understanding in how to effectively use substitutions or close a game out. I can probably give him the not closing games out thing, that was Spurs all over under far too many managers.
I loved Martin Jol when he was at Spurs. How could you not? That moment at Highbury when he towered over Wenger will stay with me forever. I truly thought he was going to do him. That moment was awesome, but he’d won us all over long before that. Everytime he spoke it was with great respect for the club, its traditions and the fans. He truly was taken to our hearts for many reasons. He wasn’t undyingly loved by all his players though. He struggled to keep fringe players happy, most notably alienating Jermain Defoe. Yes Keane and Berba scored a lot, but I think we all would have liked to have seen a little more JD too.
I loved Martin Jol when he was at Spurs. How could you not? He acted with dignity upon his exit when he had every right to offer Daniel Levy out. Whilst it’s true that Big Martin had been in talks with Newcastle about a possible big money defection, nothing can excuse the way his departure was handled. It was an embarrassing time for the club and everyone attached to it. Some fans cling to Jol’s talks with the Toon as justification but I for one can’t say I’ve never spoken to a rival about switching companies in my career, I doubt many can. So no, his treatment wasn’t justified. I was not alone in being truly sad when he went. As we all should have been, he did really well for us, got us to within a dodgy lasagne of the Champions League and generally put smiles back on Spurs faces. But I wouldn’t take him back. I don’t think he could get us any further than Harry has. In fairness to Jol he has remedied some of his deficiencies , when Ajax came 2nd under him, they scored over 3 goals per game, very BMJ. They also had the best defense in the Eredivisie, very unBMJ.
I loved Martin Jol when he was at Spurs. How could you not? He let the team eat as many sweets as they like! Hope someone’s told Fulham’s kit manufacturer to +1 everyone’s size from last year. I think he’ll be good for Fulham though, especially if Michael Jackson’s biggest fan gives him the ‘warchest’ that’s been mooted. However much Fayed gives him I hope is enough to stretch to at least a Robbie Keane. His shirt signing at Craven Cottage today was classic Jol and he’s well on the way to winning over the Fulham faithful I’m sure. So he should, after a couple of years of functional football under Hodgson and Hughes they are about to see some proper football again. Not sure how happy another of his ex players will be though. Yes, Danny Murphy, I’m talking to you.
I loved Martin Jol when he was at Spurs. How could you not? I will always have the utmost respect for him. I wish him well now. I will always cheer him and clap him when he comes back to The Lane. Make no mistake about it though, I hope we beat his team as many times as they are put in front of us next season.
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Stuart Watts (@Studub on Twitter)
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Hear hear! Martin Jol breathed life into years of sh1te that we had to put up with for years. His sacking was a disgrace. I would take him back – he will have learnt a lot since as well as our current players now know how to beat top 4 sides. Harry to England at end of season and BMJ back.
On another note I saw Keith Burkinshaw today volunteering in our local shop. What a humble gentleman. He looked very frail but was there speaking to plenty of people. This wasn’t a one off either as he volunteers to do it once a week
Thats really nice to hear about Keith Burkinshaw. Proper gentleman and still showing it.
we all loved our BMJ
Can be found in the village of Tewin between Hertford and Welwyn Garden City. Living Spurs legend
hear hear indeed
Great piece mate – he had a special place in our hearts (too sloshy, ed). A gnat’s cock from 5th at Upton Park – only shafted by seventh columnist Comolli who DL chose to trust (why?). Now you’ve seen the pic though you know BMJ wasn’t that B….
…er. make that a gnat’s cock from 4th….. been a long day
Haha Frank. I knew what you meant!
he was awesome as a person and with the players.. but lets be honest, he sucked when it came tot he chalkboard. what other top manager that you know of would regularly throw on 4 strikers when a teams losing? exciting yes! effective….
The difference between how I feel about BMJ & Redknapp is exactly why I may well go to Fulham a couple of times next season. Does that mean I support Fulham? No. Does it mean I want them to take points from us? No. Does it mean that I will get to smile at someone on the touchline for once? Yes. So judge all you want but I need to find the joy I lost this season & MJ could be just the man to help.
“Everytime he spoke it was with great respect for the club, its traditions and the fans.”
Imagine if we could have a manager who did that AND gave us a great team. Hasn’t happened in a very long time. When Redknapp’s sitting in the dugout during Jol’s first return to White Hart Lane next season and he’s wondering why the fans give Jol a reception he can only dream of, that’ll be the reason.
I liked Jol too, but let’s not go overboard. We are doing better now, and we have progressed beyond him. For someone who comes across as tough as nails, Jol was incredibly scared to play the top teams. Both Jol and Redknapp have played 23 league games against the “traditional big 4″, and Jol’s record was merely 10 points from those games (1 win, 7 draws). I prefer Redknapp’s approach of “we can beat anybody”, and it pays off – 30 points from 23 games against the “big 4″ – including 8 wins (that is over a third of those games against the big 4.) That is quite a significant difference, which could mean an extra 7 points each season. When Jol was manager, playing a big team was scary because we lost 15 out of 23 of those games. We expected to lose. Redknapp has turned that on its head. The only team that has beaten Redknapp more than lost is Man U. Jol was the starting point, and we all thank him for that. His sacking was embarrassing, but justified in the end. We all wish him well at Fulham.
Good article Stu. I think most if not all Spurs fans liked MJ when he was at the lane as his attacking football was a pleasure to watch. Unfortunately the defending wasn’t and this was one of the reason for his downfall. His exit was handled disgustingly though for someone who got us so close to CL and with a total lack of respect for a great man. He was just what we needed at the time and I thank him for what he did for us. Would he be right to return again, no absolutely not as we have progressed on now. I wish him well at Fulham but would appreciate 6 points next season still.
Nice article Stu…. a very lovable person indeed… who wouldn have loved the lovely passing football that was done under him….
justified in the end u are havin a laugh mate MARTIN JOL WAS THE CATYLIST OF US STARTING martin neaver managed a big club like spurs neaver been in the premiership
yet with players like chimbonda,malbranque,salteri,tanio,mido ,and young kids in Lennon,Hudd,Daws yet managed two top5 positions one with 65pts yes made mistakes but he was a NEW manager unlike your luvely arry who neaver makes mistakes neaver mind the crap he tried to buy like james ,campball,nevelle
This is a man who has had the best squad of players we have had for years modric,sandro,rafa,benny,and a grown up lennon,daws,hudd bearing in mind under jol played more games less talented squad
But he didnt screw up bygetting only 1pt of whu 1pt off of blackpool 1pt off of wigan 2pts off of wba i make that 5pts out of 24 i prefer a least another 15pts out of that
thanks to arrys tatics or none whacking up to Crouch you call that a prefered tatic yes martin was a new manager with an average side who he got to perform way above themselves but harrys team played within them selves thats why we failed this season to get into the top 4 as well
plus when jol was manager chelski,manu and arse and liverpool where far better sides we have improved a lot not thanks to arry ,also rednapps policy isnt that of beating we can beat anybody
There’s an article from last week called ‘we need to talk about Harry’ spur1950 you might want to take a look.
sorry mate missed that, read most good debate, trouble my debate is one sided detest the man always have ever since he called us scum when you find out things about how he runs the club u detest even more and their are loads!!
coys!
cheers studub
No worries spur1950 I don’t like him either, though I think I’m a bit more sympathetic than you. His motormouth is my main issue.
Cheers mate
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