So last night saw the final nail hammered into our top 4 coffin. Once again, there was little surprise in how the game unfolded. We dominated possession and looked, no, we were the better team but didn’t get the job done.
Few great chances were created and those that were we missed. Man City for their part did what they’ve done for most of the season and that was try to win at all costs. Mancini wouldn’t have lasted that long at Spurs with the style of football he likes to play but all credit to City. Our failure to cement our place in the top 4 of a poor league this season isn’t down to them or anyone other than ourselves. The simple fact of the matter is, at least from my point of view, is we should’ve walked it this season.
Last season as Crouch scored the winning goal in the same spot as he steered his unfortunate own goal last night we’d amassed 70 points from 37 games. This season we’re sitting on 56 from 36 games. A simple parity with last season would’ve seen us now sitting in the top 3. How that isn’t seen as a decline in performance I don’t know but instead of going on about it again I’m going to use some quotes that Redknapp made after last nights game to help us put things into perspective.
In case you’re feeling upset by the apparent missed opportunity to really push on this season and are wondering quite how we’re finishing behind a Man City team that doesn’t look to have improved on last season and will probably finish behind a Liverpool team that had it’s worse start in 50 years as well as changing managers and owners, ‘Arrys sarcastic quip should help:
“I’m going to go and commit suicide, it’s so sad” – in laymens terms, get over it.
It seems this run of 9 points from 10 games isn’t a lack of form so we shouldn’t worry. To suggest it’s relegation form would be stupid too, especially as most of the teams in that battle have managed to get a similar points tally in the last 6 games. If we were to lose an Anfield, and lets face it, it wouldn’t be the first time then our form is likely to be the second worse in the league but who am I to suggest such a thing when the man in charge says:
“We’ve been in good form, much better than the results have shown.”
Aren’t form and results related quite heavily? Don’t blame the strikers either. In fact it’s not just the strikers we should be blaming here although good one’s would move defenders about and put away chances but blame has to be laid at others feet too. Modric last night missed a glorious chance but then I guess if he added goalscoring to his talents we’d definitely lose him this summer. So it’s a lack of killer instinct running throughout the entire squad. Oh hang on, what’s that?
“It’s not a lack of killer instinct.” – WOW, much like turning down the Suarez deal because “he’s no better than what we already have” this worries me.
Speaking of Modric, he’s a player we need to keep hold of this summer. We all know that. I have my own feelings on Bale that I shouldn’t really go into because it gets people angry but lets just say if we were offered £20m+ plus Adam Johnson and Shay Given from Man City (rumoured) I’d bite their hands off. Anyway, so we’ve got to keep our best players unless silly offers come in which would ultimately improve the team and that means keeping those players happy which they won’t be at the moment. Making sure they know we’ll be improving the team with quality:
“I don’t know if we’ve got any money to spend. We will have to wait and see – if not we will get on with it and go again.”
That’s encouraging then. This season has split fans right down the middle. There are those who believe it’s been great, one of the best they can remember and if you compare it to 10 years ago I guess there’s little argument that it’s been better. Then there are those who feel let down by it. Not that it’s been a poor season by any means but certainly not as great as some make out.
“Over the whole season it’s been a great season. Probably the best Tottenham have had in God knows how long.”
I love moments like this because it makes me feel like God. I know the answer, as we all probably do. In God knows how long he states. Let’s try the best season since the last one. Last season was better than this surely? What about before that? 2008/09 wasn’t great although the second half was decent thanks to Redknapps arrival (I give credit where it’s due) and we managed to finish on 51 points which is likely to be only 8 less than this season. 2007/08 was a disaster but before that were the two seasons Martin Jol managed to guide a team with Teemu Tainio and Steed Malbranque in it to back to back 5th place finishes, both with higher points than we can get this season. That was also against a tougher top 4 and with players he had no say over signing. So in answer to the it’s been the best season Tottenham have had in God know’s how long I’d have to say it’s been the 4th best season in the last 6. Not quite the same.
Finally, just in case the already dark cloud above Mr Redknapp’s head gets serious and fans on mass genuinely start questioning whether he’s taken the club as far as he can or worse the board start asking themselves the same question, lets not forget the most important thing in all of this:
“We had two points from eight games, so we’ve improved the players here rather than gone out and spent money. We hadn’t made it before and this was our first year in it.”
I hear he’s had that tattooed on Sandra’s right breast. Whatever happens from this point forward there’s no doubt in my mind if we manage to hold onto our best players and add the one’s we should’ve added last summer we’ll be in the mix again next season and if we could just get on with things instead of making excuse after excuse while being honest when we’ve been poor we could go forward instead of slip further backwards like we have this year.
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I am amazed that only Goal seem to be reporting the suicide comment – it was about last night, but none of the mainstream press that I have seen are using it.
Is it because ‘Arry is untouchable in the media??
As I just said on DML as well, is the decision on his future going to be made by a jury?
Personally I can’t wait for the England job to come knocking for him and we can then say goodbye to the “When I got here they were relegation contenders” shit we’re all so tired of listening to.
Where should a club finish if its strikers only score 15 goals between them?
Tevez by comparison has 19 just by himself.
Put a couple of decent strikers in front of Modric, Bale, and Lennon this season and we would have made the top 4.
Rednapp the ego has landed…Tottenham who?
In my 29 years as a fan, I have never seen a manger, manage to isolate aggrovate and insult our beautiful fan base like this gypo! Levy give hiim his mediciine and f*** him off, i send this 30 year losing nomad back to once he came from..
yid 4life!!!
The majority of the fans are dissatisfied in the team’s dismal performance in qualifying for 4th place. Fingers need pointing not only to Harry, but the coaches, players & Levy. So our request would be for Spurs to finish off with victories against Liverpool & Birmingham on a high note to qualify for the Europa League
Great, great article! Agree 100% with everything. For Redknapp to say we can’t compete with citeh seems to me as an easy excuse. Looking at the two teams I don’t think there’s much difference in terms of quality last night! Apart from their abundance of Forwards! But, by using that excuse it seems to divert attention away from our own poor form and inconsistency.
My main concern is that (and I never thought i’d say this), but since Damien Comolli left, we don’t seem to have any strategy in the transfer market! We have desperately needed a quality forward for 3 seasons or so, the same can be said of a left back, cover for right midfield, a goalkeeper! I fear much of the same over the summer with the us chasing ridiculous names in the transfer market paying over the odds!
The fact is, we have under achieved and declined this season compared to last. Which, for any team, is a concern!
The suicide thing is now being reported by more sites, but I wonder if it’s a consequence of Goal running the story?
Harry is far too complacent. As the Guardian put it yesterday, Harry says Spurs can’t beat Blackpool because Man City have loads of money.
He keeps going on about 2 points from 8 games. True, but it was largely the team that had just won the Carling Cup and finished 5th. The problems weren’t that enormous.
Sorry we finished 11th under Ramos, my mistake.
some of you so called supportes saying Harry must go are complete Muppets!!!
im as dissapointed about this season as the rest of you… but also i have seen something this season that i havent seen before… and that is European Football at the highest level and that was down to Harry.
if we keep chopping and changing, we wont be seeing it for another 30 years!!!
There’s more to this than meets the eye.
Something’s going on.
Harry’s sudden lack of interest – lack of passion in the Spurs cause.
Harry’s touting for the England job – it’s clear from all his diplomatic aftermatch TV interviews.
Can you imagine Ferguson being so nice after the Chelsea decisions or the Adam’s hatchet job on Bale?
An England manager who can handle the press is a main prerequisite of the job.
Perhaps the deal (in principle) has already been done.
We’ll know soon enough.
@ant I don’t really put that down to harry to be quite honest. Under Martin Jol we had two top 5 finishes, one of the just missing out on 4th because of some dodgy food poisoning at West Ham (insert conspiracy theory here).
Facts are – We needed a top level goalscorer, everyone knew this yet all we ended up with is Pienaar the benchwarmer. Suarez was offered to us on a plate after having a blinding season last season and he didn’t want him.
Redknapp had no part in signing VdV, that was all the chairman.
Redknapp’s tactics have also been so negative when at home against low level opposition that we failed to dominate them.
All we get in response when we dare criticize is “you were bottom of the table when I turned up”
Last night showed the good and bad of our wondeful club. We controlled the game; were a cut above Citeh and have far better players……..and lost. Redknapp has transformed our passing and movement, but he has failed to accomodate VDV and in so doing has harmed Defoe and Lennon. He has also bought Crouch who for the money is the worst player to ever play for Tottenham. He carries absolutely no threat at all. He cannot head the ball; he cannot hold it up in dangerous areas; his feet don’t move quickly enough; he is a poor finisher; he cannot shoot hard enough to threaten the keeper. Harry believed he was good enough. Frightening. I think we all believe that we now need to upgrade the manager, but who with? I would not take Jose in a million years because I still come to Tottenham ultimately to be entertained and to see Modric play is to realise that there is someone on this planet as beautiful as Glenn at his best and I never though I’d say that. I like the fact that we don’t cheat; only Bale (and maybe VDV) dive; we are a proper team. Again Harry has had a big say in this. On the plus side he took us forward a lot, but if we are to upgrade certain players again, then we will need to upgrade the manager.
What last night also showed us was that our recruitment is excellent. Sandro is better than all Citeh’s similar midfielders with the possible exception of Toure, but will certainly be better; Modric is in a different league to anyone in the premiership; these players cost around £20m between them. Citeh will now buy players for £60m plus who are not as good. Below this level we bought Lennon for £1m; Hudd for £2m; Bale for £6m; Dawson for £2.5m; BAE for £3m etc.
We need to buy an experienced striker with guaranteed goals – Berba would be my choice; Ashley Young (who lives round the corner from me and I keep asking and he keeps shrugging his shoulders and smiling); and a youngster say Wickham plus hopefully a top top signing who we may have to pay top wages for. We can easily fund this by selling Nico; Seb; Robbie; Dos; Pav; Crouchy; Jamie O; etc. I’d also sell VDV because he is not going to fit into our style of play. By triming the squad we will realise that Rose (excellent again last night); Caulker; Parrett; Bostock; Mason; Smith; Kane are good enough to come in when we need them. They are young and hungry so give them a go when required.
We must not regress. Last night should remind us that most of our team are top 4 quality. 7 points against the bottom 4 is where it went wrong and that is why Harry should be politely removed.
I love Spurs and getting carried away with dreams of us becoming the best team in the world. But, I also understand that we are not that and that we have to be patient if we want to achivee the dizzy heights we all dream of. The way to achieve that is consistency.
Harry plays the type of football we want to see. He has proved himself against some of Europe’s best this season and from all the interviews I see, he has got players willing to stay with him on significantly lower salaries than they would receive at other clubs. We burnt out due to a hectic schedule and an amazing run in the Champions League. Our strikers had an abysmal season. Deal with it! We’ll be back next season and I hope to God that Harry is still there guiding us. Anyone who wants him out frankly is a shortsighted cretin.
Yes I have faith in Harry. He has done a great job. He can see the deficiencies in the team- the forwards, unfortunately now joined by the goal keeping position and is working to fix them.
Getting good forwards in- an improvement on what we have and a player who we can actually bring in- given we cannot compete for the absolute top established strikers- is very hard in practice, as against fantasy football or FIFA 11.
So we have someone who has done very well- getting to the CL QF is nothing short of an amazing achievement- and sees as well or better than anyone what we need to do to improve further but we want to replace him!
For what, someone who can build his own striker who we can afford and will get 20 goals a season, a Dr Frankenstein of the PL? Someone who can guarantee we won’t drop points against clubs in the bottom 3?
I can see the people who think that seeing Spurs in their head winning every game. I see that too but let’s distinguish between the real world and fantasy.
@Draxyyid
100% we needed a new striker… but was Harry to blame for that… would Levy give the funds.. who knows!!
But With Martin Jol… we ended up sacking him (to the dissapointment of the majority of fans) because he couldnt quite get us there!!
Yet Harry did get us there, and now theres calls for him to go!! surely thats ridiculous!! We need to back him for one more season at least!! (hopefully with improved tactics/team choices)
spot on bozdogg, thank god not every spurs blogger is a mindless idiot jumping on the latest bandwagon. The article states its our 4th best season in 6. Pathetic. So we’ve had three better champions league seasons than this have we? Last year we had our best ever premier finish and this year will be our 4th best ever so why so called fans expect any more than this is just beyond me. Until we get a new stadium to generate a new wage structure we cannot expect more than 6th. Face up to reality people and be a man in defeat instead of the constant idiot moaning, on and on using hindsight as the greatest weapon but no actually plan for the future. God, i hope other teams have this idiot fringe as well otherwise we definitely have the worst fans in the premiership.
Jimmy you are so wrong in so many ways it’s frightening. If everyone in life were like you no one would get anywhere. We can’t expect anymore than 6th – sorry but can you just think about that comment for a moment and then decide who is the idiot fringe. We were 4th last year so why can’t we expect more than 6th!? Being tactically astute would have got us into the champions league and maybe even close to the title. Redknapp has resided over a team who got 3 points against West Ham (1 point); Wigan (1 point) Blackpool (1 point). In those games we scored 2 goals. You cannot blame all of that on the forwards. VDV became the problem. It meant leaving out Defoe, our only top striker who started the season with a hatrick for England, and Lennon. These 2 players are confidence players who need games. Defoe never knew whether he was coming or going. After his burst of scoring VDV has not had a good game – probably since the turn of the year with the exception of Arsenal. Was he dropped? Gomes made too many mistakes. Was he dropped? Hudd came straight back in for crucial games. Is he good enough? Tough decisions were required; creative tactics were required; substitutions earlier in the game. I am not an idiot; I do not moan, but if wanting more than 6th from Tottenham Hotspur (when we have ended 4th the season before) is being an idiot then I am one of the biggest idiots on the planet. Frankly, I think you should look a little closewr to home.
@Bozdogg and @Jimmy
Spot on. I am ashamed to be a spurs fan sometimes. Do you all not realise Harry plays the media with comments like that, some of you muppets think he is talking directly to you!
All we have to do is simply match last season? Is that the best season in recent spurs memory by any chance? Simple.
What is the difference between this season and last season? A run to the quarter finals of the Champions League when no one expected us to get out of the group.
To all of you that want a new manger:
1. Who is out there, decent and with Premier League experience? (do we want another Ramos, Santini etc)
2. Do you really want the upheaval of a new manager? New players, settling in period, season of ‘transition’, no guarantee of success.
We are all disappointed with how this season turned out, missed opportunity. I always said that a run in the CL is good but unless we get back in, it is just that, a cup run.
Best 2 seasons we’ve had in years and half you pricks are moaning. Get a life!
reading the comments is great and highlights the split of what fans want.
Personally I don’t think Redknapp should be sacked. For the 30 months he’s been in charge he’s done a good job and I don’t think anyone can honestly argue with that, even people like me who dislike Harry Redknapp as a person, or at least the person he shows to us, which is obviously the only one I can judge not knowing him personally.
However, this is where peoples opinions differ. There are those like iamnotbatman above who think the last 2 seasons have been the best 2 seasons in years when a lot of fans would argue this season hasn’t been. Being not great and bad are two entirely different things though. Of course it hasn’t been a bad season. We got into the last 8 of Europe’s premier competition and we look like we’ll finish in 6th but still have a shot at 5th but it can’t be considered better than the two season’s Martin Jol had in 5th spots especially when you consider the extra points in the league the team got, the extra strength of the league in general and the lesser quality players we had throughout the team.
Now, that’s my opinion. Some will share it and others won’t. If you don’t that doesn’t make me an idiot and I don’t need to “get a life”.
As Big Mal said, if you’re happy with 6th and not winning anything (that’s what last 8 in the CL brings by the way) then good for you. There’s nothing wrong with having no ambition. A lot of people in the world are happy to just get through the day in their mundane jobs, just managing to pay the bills, sleeping with their slightly podgy ugly partners and generally waiting to die. There are others who believe only 1st place matters. In football these people are the people like Bill Nic, Matt Busby, Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankly etc without whom Spurs, United and Liverpool would would be very different teams today.
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Redknapps failures this season: 1- Playing 4-5-1 with crouch as the main striker. Even though defoe and pav who are better are on the bench and this system is clearly not working redknapp continues to use it. 2- Dropping players when they have scored. Defoe, pav and Krancjer have all been dropped for the next game after scoring. 3- Persisting with gomes who has cost us valuable points. 4- Having had a problem scoring and killing off teams Redknapp failed to bring in any striker in two windows despite having CL footy to offer why those around us added and strengthend. 5- Going for players in the transfer market we really didn’t need. Pienaar, neville, beckham and adam. Yet not getting the players we required to push on. 6- Not playing your best team. Playing Hutton over Corluka or having Jenas or Pienaar on the field when you have Krancjer on the bench who is better. 7- Not dropping players in bad form instead persisting with the likes of Crouch, Hutton, Gomes and Palacios. 8- Not rotating players instead burning the likes of VDV, Bale and Gallas out. 9- Failing to change any game by means of tactics. 10- Playing strange line ups and formations with personel that don’t challenge the oppositions weaknesses. How many times have we been confused by harrys selections this season? Lots!! Lennon on the bench when we are playing a team with a slow LB or take last night against city, needing 3 points Redknapp opts for a defensive set up 4-5-1 crouch upfront alone, 2 defensive midfielders yet defoe, pav, krancjer, kaboul are all on the bench and we are playing a defensive minded city team. It just doesn’t make sense! Redknapp is to blame for most of our failings this season. He is the manager. If a player or system aint working or is out of form its up to Harry to change it or buy a new one or drop that player. He hasn’t and instead persisted with it. Yet he likes to remind us where we were and what he did for us last season constantley because he knows this season we have been terrible and its mainly his fault. Yes he saved us, he got us CL and we are grateful. That however is the past and footy is all about the here and now and this season we have not done well even though redknapp insists its been a great season. Here’s why its not been a great season: 1- We have failed to kill off teams or win a match convincingly all season. Despite averaging 15 attempts at goal through most of the season. 2- Went out of both domestic cups early conceeding 4 at fulham and losing to arsenal 4-1 at home. 3- We have struggled in a weak league. Jols two 5th place finishes got us more points in a stronger league with a weaker team. 4- We will prob finish 6th with no european footy. 5- We failed to bring in the correct players to push on. So please harry how is this a successful season?! Oh you must mean the CL run…right so…we messed up at young boys, real madrid and inter milan. We let a 2 goal lead slip in bremen. Drew 0-0 with ac and lost 1-0 to madrid. Our only high points were beating ac away 1-0 and inter at home as we would expect to beat the others we played in the CL at home. So those two games plus beating arsenal on there own patch. That’s 3 games harry that we have been amazing in. Well done redknapp. Take a bow son for an amazing season where we wiped the floor with everyone!!
@JImmy &Bozz dog – u pair of twats. The only mugs throwing out insults to their own fans, also those who have the ability to think for themselves and need to be shown a load of shi££ from main stream tripe media.
not everyone is saying Harry out, but Harry learn some fu*** respect and use them shoulders for more than just a photo opportunity.
Real men don not duck the issue, only fonies hide and go missing during roll call!!
I would be happier to see some introspection from HR. If he want’s to take the credit for the recovery from “two points from eight games”, then who has to take the credit for one win from twelve games?
Incidentally, a point that no one ever makes is that it was five from nine games. Clive Allen was in charge for the 2-0 win over Stoke, and HR did not officially take over until this game.
I can’t believe what i’m reading with some of these comments to be honest. All these muppets who want to sack Harry clearly need treatment, because u clearly haven’t got a brain cell in your head. So what….we sack Harry, who are we going to bring in? Mourninho…dont make me laugh, there aint a chance of that ever happening. For the last 20 years we’ve had more managers that I’ve had hot dinners….we are only ever going to move on if were stable, and to get that you can’t go on sacking managers.
Yes, Harry does say a lot about us ‘only having 2 points’ – but if the facts are in your favor,then say them. We were a laughingstock when Harry arrived and he transformed the team. Your forgetting he’s our most successful manager in a decade. So all you donuts who are getting all romantic about Jol….yeah we loved him, but where did he get us? the geezer took us as far as he could. Fact. Harry has got us Champions League, results against the top 4…. especially that win at Arsenal for the first time in 13 years. So I can’t believe some of these comments.
Yes i’m a dissappointed as anyone about this season, but Harry is the man for the job and there is a lot to build on next year provinding we spend. All you lot who want Harry sacked, be careful what you wish for….your a joke, catch a grip!
@Mac
My problem with HR at the moment is that he is just not taking any responsibility for the current position. Rather than HR throwing that into the mix every time he faces criticism, I would like to hear him say something about one win in twelve games.
It’s like addiction treatment. You cannot begin to cure an addict until they admit to themselves that there is a problem, and at the moment, I think we have a major problem. If you convert our last twelve games into points, our total over 38 games equates to 32 points. That’s not just relegation form, that s bottom of the table form. When Ramos got the chop, he had three wins in his last 12 games.
He did a great job when he took over, but right now, he is like somebody who saved your life and expects to live off that for the rest of his life, while steering you back to the danger zone. We can only be grateful for so long.
Bill Nicholson resigned when he recognised there was a problem and he thought he could no longer contribute. HR has yet to admit that there is a problem. That’s what worries me. Once I hear him admit to this, then I am happy to give him a chance to repair the problem.
If we look at the coaching staff at the moment, you can see that there are half a dozen experienced former players and either they are all clueless, or perhaps the cult of Harry is so powerful, that nobody is prepared to upset the applecart, and I can believe the latter.
we hit form at a bad time…but we have ended up losing less games than City and Chelsea this season. Of course its frustrating that we were drawing all these pointless…believe me i’m as frustrated as anyone else – this season i saw the biggest pile of dross i have ever seen and that was that joke of a 0-0 away at wigan! but there’s a number of reasons we haven’t finished high this season.
Number 1, we never bought a striker in January. But during Jan we had all that Beckham rubbish, which may have been a distraction as the media hounded Spurs Lodge everyday that month during the transfer window. But there’s something not quite right there….Harry must have had his eye on someone, remember the time he got mugged in Madrid with Kevin Bond? He was there in Jan looking sat Athletico Madrid players. So maybe Levy had more of a say then we know?
Secondly, the champions league clearly had a massive effect on our season. After the home leg against 0-0 we never really recovered. I think we got a bit carried away and lost it a bit. Yeah Harry has to be accountable for that, but it’s our first season in th competition! of course this was going to happen.
After last year it’s obviously a come down…..but you have to look at the bigger picture. If you had of told me 8 years ago when Hoddle was in charge we would be in this position, I’d be delighted. Were still on the up, if Man United sacked Ferguson in the 80′s Man U would hardly be the sort of force they are now.
At the end of the day to suggest Redknapp doesn’t know what he’s doing is cobblers. After some of the dross we’ve had in the managers seat at WHL (Gross, Graham, Hoddle) we should be grateful we have someone like Harry – I’ve been to 17 away games this year and heard this at every game from the opposition fans, it’s about time our own fans thought the same and kept the faith!
with regards to not signing anyone in the Jan transfer window Harry himself has come out saying Levy tried to spend £35m on a couple of strikers, Rossi being one which would’ve been well over the odds for him in my opinion.
It’s also been confirmed that we had Suarez if we wanted him but it was Redknapp who decided he wasn’t right for us and to quote him, “he’s not any better than what we already have”. I can only presume he was comparing him to vdV because to suggest he’s not better than Defoe, Pav and Crouch is mental and very worrying.
You mention the Beckham circus too, which was also Harry’s doing, and I won’t even mention the fact it was last summer we needed to sign a striker and not wait until January anyway.
With the exception of a minority most fans don’t want Redknapp sacked but also want him to admit we’ve been pretty poor for over a 1/3 of the season and not make sweeping statements like it’s the best season we fans have had in God know’s how long. That’s just not factually correct. As the article says, the back to back 5th place finishes were better than this season as far as domestic football goes.
Everyone with half a brain appreciates what Redknapp has achieved in his short spell at the club but at what point are you allowed to question certain things? He hasn’t won anything after all. There’s no silverware to show for his time at the club yet. If he’d been at the club for 10 years, had won trophies etc and had now failed to sign the correct players and people were questioning him I’d agree with you. People don’t seem to question Arsenal fans suggesting Wenger has got it wrong this season by not signing a GK and CD so why is it such a disgrace some Spurs fans are questioning Redknapp’s inability to sign a striker?
Should Redknapp be sacked? No.
Do I personally like the man? No.
Do I believe he’s taken us as far as he can? Yes.
Do I think there’s a better manager out there? Who knows.
What I’d like to see is him admit his mistakes this season and not patronise the people who pay his wages. Not that it’s entirely his fault of course but as the spearhead of the club he has to be the one who speaks honestly and with humility which he has failed to do this season.